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Identifying Watch Movements

Identification of Watch Movements

Open a watch and look inside, you are looking at either a Japanese watch movement or a Swiss watch movement. Sometimes it is hard to tell them apart, especially in the low grade, and in the very high end. Swiss watch movements are better quality and normally have a higher labor rate for repair. Japanese watch movements are sometimes are more costly than Swiss watch movements, but it is lesser quality and it’s difficult to work on a movement made of plastic.

 

Swiss Movements

A Swiss movement will have stamp of 3 letters – E.T.A. and a followed by a number ex. 955-114, 2001-001 also will tell you how many jewels if there are any. You can always spot the jewel. It is the glassy red dot where the pivot of the wheel sometimes goes through. That number would be your reference number. If you need parts or a new movement, sometimes the identification is located by the battery, sometimes in one corner by the coil, sometimes it is in the circuit board. Some watchmakers would use their own nomination and should be crossed reference with standard ETA.

When you are ready to work in a watch, you should consider if the watch has a seconds hand, if the watch has a calendar window. If it has a calendar window, is it located a 3 o’clock 4 o’clock 6 o’clock. Also be aware of how thick the dial is, because sometimes the same movement has a long and short center shaft (canon pinion). The calendar wheel can be replaced, so if you do not find the same movement with the calendar at 6 o’clock, you’ll have to remove the old calendar wheel and replace it in the new movement. Sometimes the movements are discontinued due to the age, but you still can get parts, so you can clean the old ETA movement and order a coil, a circuit or both to make that special watch work again.

 

I mentioned ETA because is the largest of the Swiss companies there are also Rhonda FE, ISA. But the principle goes for all the movements, all of them are marked on the back either by movement company or the watch company. There is another way to identify a movement if for some reason no lettering can be read or found, under the dial is the bridge, the funny looking parts that hold the setting parts, looks like an alien hand if you had some imagination. Well the bridge is the watch fingertip, unique to each individual, so there are books with watch illustrations about this bridge, you can match it there.

 

 

Japanese Movements

Japanese movements, Seiko and citizen are the largest watch companies in the world. They make all kinds of watches, some of them mostly for the Japanese market very costly. We normally don’t see them. Seiko use Hattori movements that are interchangeable and Citizen uses Miyota movements. Most Asian watches use them both. With Seiko and Citizen the identification is on the back of the watch, sometimes in the bottom of the dial, and most definitely in the movement, like VX42, V810 and so on. Same goes for citizen 5R12, 6L12 and others. My advice: do not try to fix these movements, it would take considerable skill and time. It is much easier to replace either for original brand or the generic. I can provide you with the numbers above mentioned, a perfect match can be found.

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By Esslinger Staff|2018-10-24T05:42:54+00:00June 12, 2014|Watch Parts, Watch Repair|50 Comments

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  1. Rubén Iglesias
    January 6, 2016 at 8:11 pm – Reply

    Good evening, friends.

    We have (my partner and me) a watchmaking workshop in Madrid and we have a serious problem with a “LONGINES” man watch. We need a “L970.2” quartz movement for this watch and we cannot get one in Spain.

    Could someone help us with this problem?

    Thank you in advance for your time and your dedication to solve this query.

    Rubén.

    • Mike Victor
      March 26, 2016 at 7:04 pm – Reply

      Hello Ruben Iglesias, I may have this movement available, but I will need to double check. If you are still interested in this movement, please email me at mikewatchparts@gmail.com. Once you email me, I will let you know if I have this in stock.

  2. Chris Wallace
    September 13, 2016 at 5:27 pm – Reply

    Hi,
    I have an old Citizen Dive watch – 6100 series. I believe the coil is bad after testing resistance. Do you have a movement that would fit? The movement is stamped 6100A on the movement. If a replacement is available, will the dial and hands fit?

  3. w d matovich
    September 27, 2016 at 12:01 am – Reply

    what quartz movement / hands would replace an Avia seven 7 jewel movement used in a Garland watch with the seconds at the six oclock position? Is there a brown leather strap available for the same watch 15mm available that will reach around a 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 inch wrist ( I need a 13mm band for a Boluva from the 40’s as well.

  4. People Pleaser
    October 9, 2016 at 9:58 pm – Reply

    Anyone know where I can get a replacement movement for a Seiko 8F32-0380, or

  5. thanks2him
    October 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm – Reply

    I have a Japanese watch which I believe needs a new movement. I am not sure which is the movement number. I found EY3N and PC21J on the movement. LR626 on the back of the watch. Would you be able to identify the correct number? Where would I be able to find a replacement? Thanks!

  6. Pau y Eze Fernandez Manero
    November 27, 2016 at 10:45 pm – Reply

    I have a Bulova 96L183 (c837575 / 14798357 in the back plate. The watch movement says 2901). I need to replace the watch movement and the glass.
    Do you know which are the spare parts? Do you have them?

    Thanks,

    • Keith Watkins
      December 29, 2016 at 5:21 pm – Reply

      I am trying to find information on the same 2901 movement and have only been able to find your question about it. I need to replace the stem for the movement. The watch came into my shop without the stem. None of the movement companies seem to have made a 2901 quartz movement as my search has come up with nothing about it. HELP Esslinger

      • Esslinger.com
        December 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm – Reply

        By looking at the case number I think it is a 3 hand Miyota 2035

        • Keith Watkins
          December 30, 2016 at 1:40 pm – Reply

          You are correct! Thank you for the help!!

  7. Gopalakrishnan Ramaswamy
    December 12, 2016 at 3:10 am – Reply

    I have an idle OMEGA auto wind watch(without day&date) and it requires only an old or new escape wheel that is in good condition.Where
    it can be had? Please help me to set the watch in motion.It is a precious watch in good condition in all other aspects.It needs only an
    escapement wheel and change of dial that has been blurred.Your guidance will be highly appreciated.Thank you,

    • samking73
      February 19, 2017 at 4:56 am – Reply

      Depending on how old the watch is, you might find an escape wheel at one of a few parts supply houses that are still around. Esslinger and Jules Borel are both good supply houses. They stock many vintage parts. Also ebay is a handy place to search for parts. You will need to know the specific calibre of watch you need the part for.

  8. Sergio
    May 30, 2018 at 4:10 am – Reply

    Hello, I have a LUMINOX 3151 watch and I would like to know what movement RONDA is, best regards

  9. Josh Wolfcale
    May 31, 2018 at 6:56 am – Reply

    Hello i have come across a watch marked Longine. i am suspecting that it is some kind on fake but not sure.. Any help would be gratefully excepted. ill start with the back on which there are six small stars, three on top and three on the bottom. in the middle between the small stars is writing in the shape of an oval which begins on one side and ends at the other side of a small comet like shape. The writing starts with stainless steel-water repellent- super deluxe- tropicalized- unbreakable spring-swiss movement. now here is where i get the smell of something fishy.. on the inside of the back piece it says eastern watch co. inc. Hong Kong. Even worse is the movement itself. i can find no serial number at all NZP or N2P is the only grouping of any type of random letter number combo on the movement. that three letter stamp is located to the right of the + – indicators for speed. a rather sloppy looking stamp saying swiss made i think is a little off being in the center of the movement. I thought the face would of made this an easy watch to find but i have completely struck out. The face is black with “diamonds” at the three six and nine spots. At the one five seven and eleven spots are these like small double wedge arrow things. twelve two four eight and ten are regular numbers. there are small dots next to all except the three six and nine. cursive longine under the 12,logo longer then the name. antimagnetic above 6 with unbreakasble main spring arched above it reaching from 7 to 5.. very curious about this watch please help if you can… josh

  10. Michael Phillips
    July 17, 2018 at 4:36 pm – Reply

    Hi, I live in the UK but do have an account. I own an Armani ar-0519 watch and I have pulled the stem and crown out when pulling off my coat, I think. I wonder if you can tell me, can you supply replacement stem and crown, I don’t mind if they are not Armani. Also if you can what would be the cost with shipping?

  11. sam black
    August 9, 2018 at 1:02 am – Reply

    I have a greun watch (quartz) that i purchased from another site……. It is a vintage watch, I am not sure of the movement, on the case back 237-2035. The movement is a miyota CO, one jewel, no other identification is on the movement…. Threre are thee hands………. help/

  12. Hector Rodriguez
    December 29, 2018 at 2:21 am – Reply

    I have a Rado Diastar with day date at 6 0’clock with Rubi on each number, is a mechanical movement an automatic one but it seems to be defective because it runs for a few seconds but then stops. A new Eta movement it is hard to find and if I find one it is too expensive, I want to send it to a watch repairer to change the movement to a quartz one but I need all I need to change the movement like movement stabilizer inside the case and things like that and also need to know how much it is the cost of all that.

    • Esslinger Staff
      December 31, 2018 at 2:18 pm – Reply

      Please use our Watch Parts Inquiry form here:
      https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry

      Our parts department will research your watch and get back to you with a cost and availability and answer other questions you may have.

  13. Qasim Eisa
    February 5, 2019 at 7:57 pm – Reply

    Hi
    I am looking for a Quartz movement that is similar to Frederique Constant Fc-270 movement https://frederiqueconstant.com/watch-finder/classics/classics-business-timer-fc-270em4p5/
    Can you please help me to find it on your website.
    It should have (weeks hands indicator, Moonphase, hours and minutes hands) date and days are not important.

    • Esslinger Staff
      February 6, 2019 at 3:16 pm – Reply

      Please use the watch parts inquiry form for help finding parts for your watch. The parts department will research your request and get back to you in 2-3 business days.
      https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry

  14. WAYNE GONZALEZ
    April 25, 2019 at 5:15 pm – Reply

    i have a 18k gucci tank watch. the movement is broken. i need a movement. there are 483 L and 2512-1 or 2542-L numbers on the movement one of the 2 latter numbers are very hard to read but its one or the other. the 483 L is scratched in on the back. 18k/750 is stamped inside the back and made in France.

    • Esslinger Staff
      April 26, 2019 at 1:07 pm – Reply

      Please use the Watch Parts Inquiry Form for help finding the movement you need. Our parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you with a cost and availability of the part.
      https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry

  15. PENNY STANTON
    September 10, 2019 at 6:45 pm – Reply

    I am looking to a movement for a Tag Heuer Link Calibre S Regatta Chronograph Model CAT7010.BA0952. Can you help?

    • Esslinger Staff
      September 11, 2019 at 1:28 pm – Reply

      Please use the Watch Parts Inquiry Form for help finding the movement you need. Fill it out with all the information you have for your watch and our parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you with a cost and availability.
      https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry

  16. kevin brown
    December 19, 2019 at 4:34 am – Reply

    i have an old A.420 smiths delux watch with a blue/black dial its not working at the moment ! can you get a old new stock for it or get parts for it like new stem and crown new glass or mainspring. apparently it also has dry jewels its from the late 1950’s
    and i can move the winder left right or up out or in
    any help will be great

    • Esslinger Staff
      December 19, 2019 at 1:56 pm – Reply

      If you use the Watch Parts Inquiry Form for help finding all the parts you need, our parts department will be able to research your watch with the given information and get back to you with pricing and availability.
      https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry

  17. Charles Calkins
    January 20, 2020 at 12:45 am – Reply

    I e been reading the comment section n seeing all these problems with really high end watches and people looking for help either fixing them or just advice we’ll here’s my ? I haven’t seen one BULOVA WATCH LISTED for any kind of problems personally I love BULOVA watches I have a few of them and more expensive brands but I keep going back to my BULOVA PRECISIONIST I’ve had this watch for over 15 years n still looks brand new runs great doesn’t loose any time these watches really need attention brought to them I don’t understand y watchaholics aren’t buying these up they have great prices n the quality of them is phenomenal Precisionist chronograph C877749 14842412 B3 no off the backplate of it

  18. Jonathan Haruni
    March 6, 2020 at 4:12 pm – Reply

    I have a 1980s “Gruen” watch with a movement marked “Miyota Company Japan” and “One Jewel” but there is no other marking on it. In all your part diagrams for Miyota you clearly show where the model number is located but on mine there is no model number on the movement. It looks like a Miyota 2034 but could equally be various others. How can I tell?

  19. Amna
    April 5, 2020 at 2:24 pm – Reply

    Japanese movements, Seiko and citizen are the largest watch companies in the world. They make all kinds of watches, some of them mostly for the Japanese market very costly. We normally don’t see them. Seiko use Hattori movements that are interchangeable and Citizen uses Miyota movements. Most Asian watches use them both. With Seiko and Citizen the identification is on the back of the watch, sometimes in the bottom of the dial, and most definitely in the movement, like VX42, V810 and so on. Same goes for citizen 5R12, 6L12 and others. My advice: do not try to fix these movements, it would take considerable skill and time. It is much easier to replace either for original brand or the generic. I can provide you with the numbers above mentioned, a perfect match can be found.

  20. Dave
    April 11, 2020 at 7:46 pm – Reply

    I have a skeleton watch that has an “Asian 23J” movement which no longer works. I’m looking to replace this with either the same automatic movement or something that ha similar dimensions. Any suggestions?

    • Esslinger Staff
      April 13, 2020 at 4:29 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for.

  21. Guy Mancilla
    June 14, 2020 at 1:59 pm – Reply

    I have a citizen homer second setting, the caliber is 911. I would like to know if I could find a new manual caliber that fit or other wise buy a quartz movement that fit.
    thank you

    • Esslinger Staff
      June 15, 2020 at 4:28 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  22. John Richard Owan
    October 6, 2020 at 7:06 pm – Reply

    We want to purchase a replacement movement for my wife’s fake Rolex OysterPerpetual DATEJUST. She loves the case because it not only has diamonds but also rubies. Her middle name is Rose. The problem is that it stopped working after five years. I don’t want to buy another “fake” movement and have to replace it that often. Therefore, what quartz replacement movements do you have that would fit? How much do they cost? Can I I install it myself, or do I have to take it to a local jewler? Can I send the watch to your company and have them do it? What would that cost.

    We look forward to your comments.

    Best regards’

    J Richard Owan

    • Esslinger Staff
      October 7, 2020 at 6:33 pm – Reply

      We do not do any repairs at our company, but you can find the parts you need using our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  23. Michael Durbin
    February 3, 2021 at 11:43 pm – Reply

    I have a Bradley Swiss mechanical movement watch not working. Can I replace the movement with a Chinese one?

    • Esslinger Staff
      February 9, 2021 at 10:08 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  24. Stephen Austin
    February 7, 2021 at 3:37 am – Reply

    HELP! I have a Swiss mechanical movement from the 30’s or 40’s I’m trying to replace it with either a quartz or mechanical movement.
    INFORMATION ON OLD MOVEMENT:
    Movement Brand: EVKOB
    There are no identifiable model # marks on the movement except “LXE”.
    Measurements:
    Circular diameter: 19.20 mm
    Height (Including stem for hands): 5.02 mm

    • Esslinger Staff
      February 9, 2021 at 10:10 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  25. Numan
    September 21, 2021 at 5:56 pm – Reply

    Hi,
    What are the main principles for finding a substitute replacement movement? Which properties have to match ? It is for upgrading purpose or due to the fact broken movement being so old/rare.
    Thanks

  26. Hector Cortez
    February 18, 2022 at 4:35 am – Reply

    I am looking for the NH36A, DO YOU HAVE IT.

    • Esslinger Staff
      March 23, 2022 at 5:43 pm – Reply

      We do have the NH36 movement, you can read more about it and see if it might be the correct movement for you here: https://www.esslinger.com/hattori-japan-3-hand-automatic-watch-movement-nh36-day-and-date-at-3-00-overall-height-7-6mm/

  27. Craig Gilmer
    August 28, 2022 at 4:40 am – Reply

    I have found a key shaped watch marked as a Hilton, I guess Quartz is the movement, but says Japan Movt. On the back, then V180, a diamond shape , then 377. It is the coolest watch I’ve ever seen, can you give me some information and history on it? I thank you kind Sir for your time and wisdom, you are a Gentleman and a Scholar.
    Craig Gilmer
    Hagerstown,Md
    21740

  28. Vic
    October 22, 2022 at 8:23 pm – Reply

    I need the fossil AM4158 movement. Where can I obtain one? Thanks.

    • Esslinger Staff
      October 28, 2022 at 6:06 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  29. Brian
    November 20, 2022 at 8:38 pm – Reply

    I am looking for a modern quartz movement to replace an Accutron 2210 cal. In a ladies watch. I believe a 5-1/2 Ligne size will work with the case spacers I have. Where can I obtain a replacement movement?

    • Esslinger Staff
      November 21, 2022 at 9:50 pm – Reply

      Please use our watch parts inquiry form found here: https://www.esslinger.com/watch-parts-inquiry/

      Someone in the parts department will research your watch with the given information and get back to you as soon as they can with a price and availability of the parts you are looking for and answer any questions you may have.

  30. Watcher
    February 14, 2023 at 8:24 am – Reply

    I want to replace the mechanical movement in a Seiko SNZG15K1 with a quartz movement. Which quartz movement will best fit this watch?

  31. Ivan Grupe
    August 25, 2023 at 5:45 pm – Reply

    Does anyone know where I can get a Swiss made Quartz movement numbered EAS Y2900231?

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